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Question #2: Do you want to obey God?

This post is part of a series, primarily aimed at parents who have questions about sending their son or daughter to IHOPU or young people who want to know what they are getting into there at IHOPU or the wider IHOP-KC community.

“If your Dad left on a trip and gave you very specific instructions to build his business, provide for his household, and feed his children while he was gone, written down for you precisely, and after he left a stranger called to say that your Dad had called him and said he had a new list of instructions to dance and sing and meditate, would you believe him?  If you left off what your Dad said to listen to the stranger, when your Dad returned and found his business in ruins, the children starving, and the household ravaged by thieves, do you think he would call you faithful or disobedient?”

Let’s start here, with what the whole church calls The Great Commission from our LORD JESUS CHRIST, the specific instructions He gave to His church:

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make

disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,  teaching them to observe

all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.  Mat. 28:18-20

For two thousand years, the Christian church in all her forms and creeds and varying methods, has been expanding around the earth based on this authorization, this raison d’etre, this commission.  Whether or not a church has good doctrine, disciples well or poorly, or is compromised, if it exists to obey this command, in its existence it at least carries the legitimacy that traces itself back to the everlasting Word, the command of our Lord.  Even if it needs extensive pruning, it is a legitimate offshoot of the everlasting vine.


When you listen to their prophetic history and get around the environment, you will hear this word over and over again:  Mandate.  Let’s look at what this word means.  According to Merriam-Webster, it is “an authoritative command,” “an authorization to act,” “an order or commission…”  When IHOP talks about their Mandates, they are not speaking about the one given by the Lord Jesus.  They are speaking about new ones given by false prophets.

It breaks my heart even as I write it.  How have so many pastors, and leaders, and elders, and believers been bamboozled?  You didn’t notice that new instructions were being given to replace those of our Lord???  And you thought it would bear good fruit???  How can it bear good fruit, it is not from the Vine!  It is a bastard branch!  If you think I am being too strong, listen to the prophetic history.  It is a 20 hour story of  Mike Bickle being yanked away by prophecy from pastoring and evangelizing (following the Lord’s commands) into a new mandate that is completely other and not found in Scripture.  And as he shares, he is doing the same for his listener, steadily pulling them away from the Lord’s commands in Scripture  into new ones not found therein.

No, the central mandate or commission behind IHOPKC is the command to produce Night and Day Prayer.  They received this command, not through scripture, but through the extra-biblical revelation of prophets, as revealed to Bob Jones and Mike Bickle.

So when young people go spend four years at IHOPU, they are not going to learn to “obey all that [Jesus] commanded you,” or to learn to preach the gospel, or to learn to make disciples.  They will be effectively de-programmed from all these commands of our Lord Jesus Christ, and reprogrammed with extensive, complex, nonsensical prophetic garbage in a spirit of useless sophistication so that they can convince other Christians elsewhere to leave off their simple obedience and enter into a massive, now global, spiritual fraud.

Mike Bickle once told his staff that when they stood before the judgment seat, the Lord would ask them if they did night and day prayer.

But perhaps when these young people really stand before the judgment seat, the Lord will point to His everlasting Word and ask, why did you exchange my commands for those of Bob Jones?   God have mercy.

 And the Lord said, “Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of food in due season?  Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes.  Luke 12:42-43


3 thoughts on “Question #2: Do you want to obey God?

  1. So much of my younger years were spent in Charismatic churches where life decisions were made based on the words of travelling “prophets” and newly-revealed doctrine and revelations. Looking back, there’s nothing surprising about my having ended up at IHOP-KC. Biggest irony? I went there and stayed there out of a desire to obey God.

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